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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.04.29 20:17:46 -
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7.500 dead Garmurs for your enjoyment: https://zkillboard.com/ship/33816/losses/
15 killed solo just on the first page.
The Garmur's stats may be a tad excessive, but smart EVE players always find a way to kill stuff (and/or dumb players find ways to lose stuff).
I agree with Crosi that more shiny ships is ok for the game. Creates content in many different ways, including, of course, popcorn threads like this one.
If 'honorable 1v1s' are your cup of tea, just fly standard frigs without links and engage standard frigs that you presume do not have links. Leave the linky op-ish stuff to those who enjoy flying - and hunting - them.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3813
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Posted - 2015.04.30 08:52:28 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:That doesn't really help the argument that they are not OP, as 111,134 ships have been destroyed by Garmurs. Do the math and you find that 7500 is a rather low loss rate compared to the damage it has done.
Not saying I'm against the Garmur, but those stats are not a good comparison to show the ship is not OP That's because I wasn't arguing that the Garmur isn't OP, I was pointing out that it creates content.
Thus, it's good for the game.
For example, compare the Garmur's zkill stats to another fairly OP ship (if you consider frigate 1v1s): the Sentinel.
Less kills, many more losses, but overall much less used than the Garmur, for whatever reason.
As Leokokim pointed out in the above post, the Garmur is arguably OP but it doesn't break the game.
Why? Because it's used almost exclusively in 'for fun' PVP (solo/small gang) where it's the players that decide whether to fly it / engage it or not (aka 'the meta').
Fleet boats such as the Ishtar are another matter, because they're often flown not just 'for the lulz' but to secure in-game objectives (such as SOV battles). In this case, having an OP ship is not so good simply because everyone will want to use it (to secure their objective) over other alternatives, thus making the game a bit dull.
I frankly don't see everyone flying Garmurs...
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3843
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Posted - 2015.05.02 06:21:30 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:(How do you add links to EFT?). Make a link character and a link fit in EFT.
Have both your ship's and the link ship's windows open in EFT.
On your ship's window, right click on the lower right, 'squad commander' or something.
Select both your link character and your dishonorable link ship.
Done!
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3866
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Posted - 2015.05.04 22:13:14 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:A Garmur and the T3Ds are about the only way a soloist can take on multiple people at once, and possibly come out on top. Wat?
You can take on multiple people with virtually any ship, though kitey ones usually make things easier.
How many you can kill depends on too many factors to list.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3866
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Posted - 2015.05.05 04:55:14 -
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wilgotna wrote:ya any ship can go 1 versus many. and i can also beat up multiple children at the same time.
thats not the point though
we are talking about how BAD CCP IS AT BALANCING THIS GAME
the garmur is op
the orthrus is ridiculously op with rlmls
the new t3ds are like a sick joke. why fly any assault frigate, dessie or t1 cruiser anymore when a t3d can rip all of them with ease? Log on and find out yourself.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.05.07 06:24:08 -
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wilgotna wrote:i have killed more garmurs than anyone in this whole thread Killing your alt on SiSi doesn't really count.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3901
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Posted - 2015.05.10 07:17:01 -
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wilgotna wrote:when i log in i see (...) Because your station has windows?
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